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[wpkg-users] Still WPKG users around?
Johannes Burger
2018-05-04 18:53:34 UTC
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I have a problem installing WPKG. It seems everyone has moved on using other programs?
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Matthew Broadhead
2018-05-04 19:55:00 UTC
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i still use wpkg.  i don't need to install it very often but only when i
add a few computers to our network.  i have notes though because it
never installs correctly from the installer.  you have to open the
wpkg-gp.ini file in administrator mode and specify the software=
parameter IIRC
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I have a problem installing WPKG. It seems everyone has moved on using other programs?
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Stefan Pendl
2018-05-05 07:29:32 UTC
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Post by Johannes Burger
I have a problem installing WPKG. It seems everyone has moved on using other programs?
What are you installing?

WPKG on its own needs no installation at all, since it is just a
JavaScript file that is executed from a file share.

I am running it daily on 250+ computers using a scheduled task to
overcome all of the problems Windows 8 and later put on it.
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Holger Kröber
2018-05-05 07:49:28 UTC
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Hi Stefan,

how is your scheduled task implemented exactly? Does it run on the
system account? Does it run on logon or before?
How do you make sure, that there will be no conflicts (e.g. wpkg
detects, that a new version of thunderbird has to be deployed,
but the user already started the thunderbird process etc.).

Thank you,
Holger
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Post by Johannes Burger
I have a problem installing WPKG. It seems everyone has moved on using other programs?
What are you installing?
WPKG on its own needs no installation at all, since it is just a
JavaScript file that is executed from a file share.
I am running it daily on 250+ computers using a scheduled task to
overcome all of the problems Windows 8 and later put on it.
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Stefan Pendl
2018-05-05 08:01:47 UTC
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Post by Holger Kröber
how is your scheduled task implemented exactly? Does it run on the
system account? Does it run on logon or before?
The scheduled task runs as SYSTEM at a specified time in the evening.
Startup, Shutdown, Logon and Logoff are no longer good options due to
the tightened security introduced with Windows 8 and above.

Main Windows command script "ScheduledWPKG.cmd" executed by the
scheduled task:
rem --- code start (watch for line wraps)

@rem
@echo off

set isUserLoggedOn=0
for /F "tokens=1" %%P in ( 'tasklist' ) do if /i "%%~P" ==
"explorer.exe" set isUserLoggedOn=1
if %isUserLoggedOn% EQU 1 goto :EOF

if not defined MY_WPKG_SOFTWARE goto :finish
if not defined MY_WPKG_ROOT goto :finish

rem run WPKG
Set SOFTWARE=%MY_WPKG_SOFTWARE%
Set WPKG_ROOT=%MY_WPKG_ROOT%

echo.
call "%WPKG_ROOT%\tools\WPKGclearLog.cmd"
echo.
cscript.exe "%WPKG_ROOT%\wpkg.js" /synchronize /nonotify /quiet
echo.
call "%WPKG_ROOT%\tools\WPKGclientCollect.cmd"
echo.

:finish
shutdown.exe -s -t 600 -d p:4:1

rem --- code end

Windows command script "WPKGclearLog.cmd":
rem --- code start (watch for line wraps)

for /f "tokens=*" %%V in ('ver') do set os_ver=%%V

echo %DATE% %TIME% ERROR : %os_ver% - WPKG did not finish successfully!
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"%SOFTWARE%\WPKG\ClientLogs\%COMPUTERNAME%.log"
rem --- code end

Windows command script "WPKGclientCollect.cmd":
rem --- code start (watch for line wraps)

set script_name=%~n0

echo %DATE% %TIME% INFO : WPKG successfully finished!
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"%SOFTWARE%\WPKG\ClientLogs\%COMPUTERNAME%.log"
echo SOFTWARE .... %SOFTWARE% >"%TMP%\%script_name%.log"
echo WPKG_ROOT ... %WPKG_ROOT% >>"%TMP%\%script_name%.log"

if exist "%TMP%\wpkg-%COMPUTERNAME%.log" copy /Y
"%TMP%\wpkg-%COMPUTERNAME%.log"
"%SOFTWARE%\WPKG\ClientLogs\%COMPUTERNAME%.log" >>"%TMP%\%script_name%.log"
if exist "%SystemRoot%\system32\wpkg.xml" copy /Y
"%SystemRoot%\system32\wpkg.xml"
"%SOFTWARE%\WPKG\ClientStatus\%COMPUTERNAME%.xml"
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"%TMP%\%script_name%.log"
rem --- code end
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Top-posting:
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
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Holger Kröber
2018-05-05 08:17:17 UTC
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Hi Stefan,

you talk about stationary clients that are waked up with WOL in the evening?
What about mobile clients?
Do you activate "run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is
missed"?

Cheers,
Holger
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The scheduled task runs as SYSTEM at a specified time in the evening.
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Stefan Pendl
2018-05-05 09:39:18 UTC
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Post by Holger Kröber
you talk about stationary clients that are waked up with WOL in the evening?
What about mobile clients?
Do you activate "run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is
missed"?
Mobile devices on the road are hard to manage, placed into a docking
station and things are as easy as with desktops.
I don't activate running the task if a start is missed, since you cannot
make sure to have working VPN, no user logged on, etc.
Most of the mobiles are at least once a month hooked up to a docking
station in the company, so no problem if application updates are done
not so frequently.
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Top-posting:
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
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Stefan Pendl
2018-05-05 08:06:48 UTC
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Do you use url path or a drive?
I use the UNC path of wpkg.js in the local Windows command script posted
before, but there should be no difference if you map the file share to a
drive before its usage.
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Top-posting:
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
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Falko Trojahn
2018-05-05 21:10:13 UTC
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Post by Johannes Burger
I have a problem installing WPKG. It seems everyone has moved on using other programs?
Do you have a problem starting with wpkg at all, or using wpkg or
wpkg-gp at a specific client?

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Chris
2018-05-05 21:54:25 UTC
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Post by Johannes Burger
It seems everyone has moved on using
Not true. Using it on hundreds of workstations :)
(But yes, there are alternatives and, to be honest, I might choose a
different solution if I would start from scratch on the green field
these days. But still, WPKG has served me well and it's still on!)
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Andrea Zagli
2018-05-05 22:50:37 UTC
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what alternatives are there?
Post by Chris
Post by Johannes Burger
It seems everyone has moved on using
Not true. Using it on hundreds of workstations :)
(But yes, there are alternatives and, to be honest, I might choose a
different solution if I would start from scratch on the green field
these days. But still, WPKG has served me well and it's still on!)
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Chris
2018-05-05 23:42:13 UTC
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what [wpkg] alternatives are there?
Chocolatey:
https://chocolatey.org

OneGet / Powershell Package Management:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/wmf/5.0/oneget_cmdlets
https://github.com/OneGet/oneget/blob/WIP/readme.md
(Chocolatey is also available as a OneGet / PSP Provider)
what alternatives are there?
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Post by Johannes Burger
It seems everyone has moved on using
Not true. Using it on hundreds of workstations :)
(But yes, there are alternatives and, to be honest, I might choose a
different solution if I would start from scratch on the green field
these days. But still, WPKG has served me well and it's still on!)
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Kris Lou
2018-05-07 05:11:28 UTC
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Also WAPT and OCS or FusionInventory.
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what [wpkg] alternatives are there?
https://chocolatey.org
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/wmf/5.0/oneget_cmdlets
https://github.com/OneGet/oneget/blob/WIP/readme.md
(Chocolatey is also available as a OneGet / PSP Provider)
what alternatives are there?
Post by Chris
Post by Johannes Burger
It seems everyone has moved on using
Not true. Using it on hundreds of workstations :)
(But yes, there are alternatives and, to be honest, I might choose a
different solution if I would start from scratch on the green field
these days. But still, WPKG has served me well and it's still on!)
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Marco Gaiarin
2018-05-07 08:00:51 UTC
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Mandi! Chris
In chel di` si favelave...

Still i use it on roughly 800 clients, still on Win7/wpkg-gp.
what [wpkg] alternatives are there?
I was not aware of 'OneGet' (thanks!), but seems to me that both do
'install' but no (or in a very complicated way) 'configuration'.

If i had to move, probably i'll switch to something more ''standard''
(ansible, ...), but anyway something that have a very strong
implementation of ''check conditions'', that for me are the value in
tools like that.
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Raymond Burkholder
2018-05-07 10:42:36 UTC
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Still i use it on roughly 800 clients, still on Win7/wpkg-gp.
what [wpkg] alternatives are there?
I was not aware of 'OneGet' (thanks!), but seems to me that both do
'install'
but no (or in a very complicated way) 'configuration'.
If i had to move, probably i'll switch to something more ''standard''
(ansible, ...), but anyway something that have a very strong
implementation
of ''check conditions'', that for me are the value in tools like that.
SaltStack might be another alternative. It knows Windows. Will do 'check
conditions'. Knows how to handle configuration.

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Marco Gaiarin
2018-05-07 12:24:57 UTC
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Mandi! Raymond Burkholder
In chel di` si favelave...
Post by Raymond Burkholder
SaltStack might be another alternative. It knows Windows. Will do 'check
conditions'. Knows how to handle configuration.
Sure! Puppy too!

'ansible' was only as example...
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Dona il 5 PER MILLE a LA NOSTRA FAMIGLIA!
http://www.lanostrafamiglia.it/index.php/it/sostienici/5x1000
(cf 00307430132, categoria ONLUS oppure RICERCA SANITARIA)
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Andreas Schamanek
2018-05-07 13:12:08 UTC
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I very much appreciate hearing about alternatives, but I'd like to ask
everyone to only suggest alternatives that are close to what WPKG is:
an opensource, GPL licensed, super lightweight Windows package
management tool.

If you suggest something different, please, at least mention the main
differences!
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Mike Burgener
2018-08-22 11:28:57 UTC
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Also using it since long time and most time it works like a charm.

I think many users are simply not on the mailinglist as it mostly just works.

Regards

Mike
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Jürgen Depicker
2018-08-22 12:55:03 UTC
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Post by Mike Burgener
Also using it since long time and most time it works like a charm.
I think many users are simply not on the mailinglist as it mostly just works.
Regards
Mike
Exactly!
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Sören Svensson
2018-08-23 07:33:44 UTC
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Hi,

We are also using it since a few years back.

We are using Microsoft MDT for OS/Windows deployment. Found out early that WPKG have similar object structure as the MDT database so I made a simple script connection between them. So we use the MDT GUI(or powershell) to connect the computer to applications in MDT db and then we generate the wpkg xml-files from the data and let wpkg-gp do the installs. Works great.

Regards,
Sören Svensson


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Also using it since long time and most time it works like a charm.
I think many users are simply not on the mailinglist as it mostly just works.
Regards
Mike
Exactly!
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Andreas Habel
2018-08-23 07:54:34 UTC
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Hi,

just to answer the question in the subject -- we've been using WPKG for a couple of years now, starting with a couple of packages for software that regularly needs updates, like Flash, browsers etc. Today we have about 150 "active" packages that are deployed to ca. 100 lab and office PCs. We mainly use WPKG in a nightly run; PCs that are not running are booted via BIOS. The WPKG service is started as a scheduled task; those PCs that cannot be booted via BIOS startup and for virtual machines we use WPKG-GP.

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I have a problem installing WPKG. It seems everyone has moved on using other programs?
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